The Wrap Chat: Episode 1 – Interview with Jamal and Agricultural Leader, Jon Jon Thomas

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Speaker 1 (00:01):

Hello everybody. You’re listening to the rap chat. I’m Mike Noren with

Speaker 2 (00:08):


Speaker 1 (00:09):

Jamal. Jamal, uh, tell us a little about yourself.

Speaker 2 (00:14):

Uh, I live in New Hope.

Speaker 1 (00:17):

Okay. Uh, what kind of hobbies do you like to do? Jamal? Uh,

Speaker 2 (00:20):


Speaker 1 (00:22):

Movies? Yeah. You seen any good movies lately?

Speaker 2 (00:24):

Nothing. Nothing exciting, but

Speaker 1 (00:28):

<laugh>, no. Okay. So you haven’t seen any exciting movies yet?

Speaker 2 (00:34):


Speaker 1 (00:34):

No. Okay. What about sports? What kind of sports are you into right now?

Speaker 2 (00:38):

Um, basketball.

Speaker 1 (00:39):

Okay. Who’s your team?

Speaker 2 (00:42):

Yeah, it’s, uh, my team is for the finals. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> is Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (00:51):

Okay. That’s your team right now, who you’re rooting for?

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Speaker 1 (00:56):

Okay, cool. So, uh, if we would you want to talk about your back history a little bit? Like where did you, before you came New Hope, where do you, where did you live? Uh, where were you born?

Speaker 2 (01:08):

I was born in Queens.

Speaker 1 (01:10):

Queens, New York. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12):

And I’m, uh, moved from Queens to, uh, um, the Bronx, and then from the Bronx to Westchester, where I stayed there for close to almost 16 years.

Speaker 1 (01:32):

Okay. When you lived in Westchester, you went to school out there? Yeah. Okay. And, um, while you were in school, what did you guys, what did you do in school?

Speaker 2 (01:40):

I, um, I studied about, um, I did a lot of studying. Uh, it was, uh, health. I took health class.

Speaker 1 (01:54):

Health class,

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Speaker 3 (01:57):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,

Speaker 2 (01:57):

My, uh, and I also took, uh, which was my favorite class. Uh, and also I took, uh, um, reading classes.

Speaker 1 (02:18):

Okay. Now, uh, you used to work over in that area too, right? Yeah. What kind of job did you do?

Speaker 2 (02:26):

Well, I worked in, uh, White Plains.

Speaker 1 (02:29):


Speaker 2 (02:31):

For, uh, for a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:38):

Okay. What kind of, what kind of job did you do? You were a receptionist, if I remember correctly, right? Yeah. Yes. And you took phone calls and transferred lines and everything? 

Speaker 2 (02:46):

Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 (02:47):

That’s cool. Now, when, then after Westchester, your family, they moved to Florida, right? And you decide to stay up here?

Speaker 2 (02:57):

No, actually it was, um, they stayed in Westchester at the time, and I decided to move on my own, which was my decision.

Speaker 3 (03:12):


Speaker 2 (03:12):

<affirmative>. And, um, then, uh, they decided to sell the house in, in, uh, Westchester and moved to Florida. So after a while, I, after two years, I went over to see them when I first came, um, I think it was two, uh, about, uh, I’ve been here since 2004. So I, uh, it’s been, it was 12, 12, 12 years. So I haven’t seen them since. So I went to Florida and, and after two years, I finally got a chance to go see them. So, and then I went over to, um, see them and their house is a nice, they, they live in Cocoa Beach Merritt Island, which was, um, the, uh, a, um, a nice house. It has, um, it shows water.

Speaker 3 (04:52):


Speaker 2 (04:52):

<affirmative>, which is like the beach. And I also went on a, when I also went back there and I also went out a cruise to go see them again, which

Speaker 1 (05:08):

Yup, you and I went on that cruise together.

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Speaker 1 (05:11):

That was a fun cruise. Uh, um, we went on that cruise about this time last year, right? Yeah. Yep. Fun story about that. Jamal and I were, we woke up one morning, went upstairs where they were serving breakfast, Uhhuh, <affirmative>, and it was really nice out. And, uh, we were, you know, we at our breakfast and Jamal forgot to get a straw, so he asked me to get him one. So I walk inside and get Jamal a straw. I come back down and sit down and I see that my plate was moved a little bit and I didn’t think much of it. I thought maybe Jamal accidentally hit it when he was getting something. So about 10 minutes into my meal, Jamal wait, says like, oh wait, I’ve gotta tell you, while you were up, the seagulls came and hopped on their plane. Were eating all your food. So I probably just had a couple bites of food left, and I just figured, you know, what the heck? And eaten Seagul food. Jamal didn’t care to tell me.

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Speaker 1 (06:03):

Until later. Remember that Jamal?

Speaker 2 (06:04):

Yes, yes I do. And, um, it was, um, a good, um, we, we stayed in, uh, hotel and, um, I’ll tell you funny, another funny story too. Um, at the end of our little vacation, of course we had fun, but, um, uh, at the end of our little vacation, uh, first few, few nights at the last day or so, um, I was gonna go visit. I was gonna have breakfast with my family. And, uh, it was, what time was it, Mike.

Speaker 1 (07:02):

Oh, oh, you’re telling about the, the Well, what happened was Jamal. Yes. And I went there and you know, we said, we’ll wake up at seven o’clock and meet and have a breakfast. And somehow the cell phones got switched over because there’s no cell phones service out there. And for some reason the phones got messed up. Told me it was seven o’clock, but in reality it was probably two o’clock in the morning. So I wake Jamal up, give him a shower, and I’m sitting there like, Jamal, I said, I feel horrible. I says, I feel like I haven’t even slept at all. And I was wondering why Jamal was moving so slow also, but, and we went to bed at midnight probably, so we only get, probably slept for maybe two hours. So we finally get dressed and we’re sitting there knocking on Jamal’s dad’s cabin of the cruise. And What’s your dad doing? He opens the door.

Speaker 2 (07:46):

He opens the door and he finds out that, uh, he thought it was time to get up. So then, uh, 

Speaker 1 (07:57):

Your dad was like, he’s like, oh my God, he’s, did he, he starts flicks the lights on. He’s trying to wake everybody up.

Speaker 2 (08:02):

He looks at the, he looks at the clock and he says, um, uh, he, he says to my mom, what time is it? She says, it’s only two. He says, it’s only like two, two o’clock.

Speaker 1 (08:18):

It was almost like three o’clock. Cause it took us a long time to get up and get dressed because we were so tired. And I was sitting there trying to rush, like, come on, we gotta hurry up, we gotta hurry up.

Speaker 2 (08:25):

So at the end of it, my, uh, um, I went back to bed.

Speaker 1 (08:32):

Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (08:33):

And, um, I slept and um, um, but, um, otherwise my trip, you know, I slept in you yoo and, um, we had a blast and mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we had fun. And, um, um,

Speaker 1 (09:01):

Also the funny part of the story is that, that night before Jamal and I both went and got watches, brand new watches that mm-hmm. <affirmative> told the time, but we never put ’em on because they were still, they don’t give you your items until you off the ship. So we had no idea what time it was. And I, and we’re down below, there’s no light whatsoever, so we didn’t Yeah. Know any idea what time it was that, but yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so Jamal and I made his parents freak out. I think it was like, they’re running late. So his parents were like, oh my God. Wake up. Wake up.

Speaker 4 (09:25):

Where did you guys go?

Speaker 1 (09:27):

Where’d we go? Jamal?

Speaker 2 (09:29):

Uh, um, on a cruise, um,

Speaker 1 (09:35):


Speaker 2 (09:36):

The, to The Bahamas. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:38):

Did you like that?

Speaker 2 (09:39):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Speaker 1 (09:40):

It was nice. Right?

Speaker 2 (09:41):

It’s, um, we, we, what happened was we took an airplane and then right after the air, right, right there, we met, uh, my parents because they were from Florida too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So we had to meet ’em right there. We, I took, um, jet Blue at the time.

Speaker 1 (10:04):

That was a long day for us. Remember we had to leave New York at, I think we left West Street at about maybe three in the morning. Yeah. And we got to Florida finally at maybe 10 o’clock. And Jamal and I probably were up for well over 24 hours. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because we went to bed that night because of, of all the entertainment they have comedy shows and music shows. What else did they have on there?

Speaker 2 (10:24):

Comedy shows? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:26):


Speaker 2 (10:27):

They, they also had, um, um, what else they had? Um,

Speaker 4 (10:37):

Did they have casinos

Speaker 2 (10:38):

On the golf casinos? Uh, but, um, at the end of the night, you know, they had a lot of shows and a lot of comedy shows. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and at the end of the night, uh, they had some good, uh, food and good excitements. Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2 (11:01):

And, um, we’ve also went to, um, Atlantic City one time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Speaker 1 (11:11):

Oh yeah. You and I went on a couple, a lot of trips together.

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Speaker 1 (11:15):

We went on, what’s the one we wanted a couple of months ago in the wintertime? Remember that there an ice storm?

Speaker 2 (11:21):

The hockey game? The hockey game? Mm. There was a hockey game and that

Speaker 1 (11:26):

Was kind

Speaker 2 (11:27):

Of a good time. We went to a hockey game. So it’s, it was exciting to me. Cause

Speaker 1 (11:35):

Do you know who, remember who we saw, what teams did we play? Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (11:38):

The Devils. Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:40):

The Devils and who else?

Speaker 2 (11:43):

The, um, who was it?

Speaker 1 (11:46):

The Rangers.

Speaker 2 (11:47):

The Rangers. 

Speaker 1 (11:48):

Which was funny cuz 

Speaker 2 (11:48):

The Devils and the Rangers

Speaker 1 (11:49):

Yep. Jamal likes the Devils. I like the Rangers. So he got lucky because the Devil’s the one that night. That was the night we got that really bad ice storm. And Jamal and I got stuck on the bus because the bus lift broke every, I shouldn’t travel with Jamal because every time I do something bad happens <laugh>. But we got stuck on the bus for maybe two hours or so, because the lift wouldn’t work.

Speaker 2 (12:09):

And then I had to take the day off, take the day off because it was by the time we got home mm-hmm. <affirmative> it was about,

Speaker 1 (12:19):

It was about 2 30, 3 o’clock,

Speaker 2 (12:20):

2 30, 3 o’clock

Speaker 1 (12:22):

Mm-hmm. And I had to be back in work in the morning.

Speaker 2 (12:25):

So that’s, uh, what my hobbies are. And um, I also like movies, comedy shows, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:40):

Yeah. Who who do you like to listen to in Sirius XM?

Speaker 2 (12:44):

Of course

Speaker 1 (12:44):

Jamal made a face

Speaker 2 (12:46):

Howard Stern

Speaker 1 (12:47):

<laugh>. You better not start talking like Howard Stern though. Okay. No.

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Speaker 2 (12:51):

Of course. Uh, there’s a, um, there I like music, so.

Speaker 1 (13:01):

Oh, that’s right. You’re going to a couple concerts this year. Yeah. Which ones

Speaker 2 (13:05):

Rob? I’m going to Matchbox 20, which is, uh, Rob Thomas. 

Speaker 1 (13:10):

 Who’s taking to that one?

Speaker 2 (13:12):

Um, Mike.

Speaker 1 (13:13):

Okay. Me Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:14):

Yes. And um, I also like Rock. So you, um, uh, and some all my hobbies and I, of course I love my family and my, my, my other room one is like, I see my family once in a while they come up see me mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2 (13:42):

And I go see them and, um, they  New Hope also has a barbecue, which is I think one is coming up this year.

Speaker 1 (13:57):

Alright, Jamal. So, um, is there any goals you have that you want to do in the future?

Speaker 2 (14:03):

Goals? I would like to help people

Speaker 1 (14:09):


Speaker 2 (14:09):

With things.

Speaker 1 (14:14):

I know one thing you always talked about doing to help people is making pillows for the needy.

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Speaker 1 (14:20):

Oh, oh, I totally forgot to talk about it. What, what special group are you a part of that you go to for meetings?

Speaker 2 (14:26):

Uh, to self In the action club. Action Club meeting.

Speaker 1 (14:32):

Yep. And what’s your, uh, role there?

Speaker 2 (14:34):

Uh, I’m a vice president.

Speaker 1 (14:37):

Cool. And, uh, what’s Action Club do?

Speaker 2 (14:40):

Uh, they help, uh, we have, we just, we just started it three, it’s been almost two, three years mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (14:51):

<affirmative>. Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:53):

Two, I would say about two years, one year.

Speaker 1 (14:56):

Yeah. You do things to help the community. Uh, what kind of things have you done in the past to help the community?

Speaker 2 (15:01):

Um, we helped raised walk. We did a couple walkathons mm-hmm. <affirmative> to raise money for the

Speaker 1 (15:16):

Yeah, you do

Speaker 2 (15:16):

Food drives. Food drives. We raised money to help food drives raise money

Speaker 1 (15:22):

To help people. Yeah. And you helped out the community a lot. You helped out the students in the past,

Speaker 2 (15:26):

The Yeah. The

Speaker 1 (15:27):

Old folks home. Who else? I think you helped the students one time. You donated supplies to them.

Speaker 2 (15:33):

Yes, I did. We raised, we, we come up with almost two, two, I guess she, I don’t remember they give exact number, but I would say two 2000.

Speaker 1 (15:52):

Wow. That’s great.

Speaker 2 (15:54):

That’s excellent. About, yeah, 2000, the dollars. Yeah. For, for the walkathon. We lived not too long ago with, uh, new, uh, with, uh, all these, all these people for Yep.

Speaker 1 (16:14):

You did the Walk for autism, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Walk

Speaker 2 (16:17):

For Hunger Walks and it was not just Walks new Hope it was different people from different agencies.

Speaker 1 (16:24):

Yep. And Action Club is a kinda like a Kiwanis, it’s part of Kiwanis,

Speaker 2 (16:28):

The Kiwanis Kiwanis Club. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:30):

Yep. But it’s, you know what people developmental disabilities got people from multiple agencies. You got, you know, new Hope, obviously. And who else were you saying

Speaker 2 (16:40):

ARC, uh,

Speaker 1 (16:42):

Crystal Run,

Speaker 2 (16:42):

Right? Crystal Run, Discovery Center for Discovery.

Speaker 1 (16:47):

Yeah. You guys, you know, taken, you know all the system agencies. 

Speaker 2 (16:52):

We’ve done, um, baskets for the needy

Speaker 1 (16:56):

Oh, that’s right. You did the, uh, soaps and

Speaker 2 (16:59):

We’ve done we for the soldiers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:03):

Have you guys done anything from the military yet? Or I think, I think you’re planning one,

Speaker 2 (17:06):

Right? We’re planning one though.

Speaker 1 (17:10):

That’s good. So, so Jamal, before we go, I want you to describe what New Hope means to you.

Speaker 2 (17:19):

Uh, that is a good agency and for the people, people for developmental, intellectual, disability.

Speaker 1 (17:37):

Awesome. Now, before we go, is there anything you’d like to say? Advice for anybody in life or anything like that?

Speaker 2 (17:45):

Uh, stay strong and just, um, live your dreams. Live your dreams to be a better person.

Speaker 1 (17:59):

That’s great, Jamal. Alright, Jamal, we all thank you for coming on to the Wrap Chat and, uh, we’ll will see you next time. We’d like to have you on again. And actually Jamal is interested in starting his own podcast, so we will let you know when that’s available.

Speaker 2 (18:15):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah, I will have, uh, I will start my podcast. I’ll let you know when it’s available.

Speaker 1 (18:24):

All right, thank you Jamal.

Speaker 2 (18:26):

You too.

Speaker 1 (18:26):

Thank you. Bye.

Speaker 2 (18:28):


Speaker 1 (18:30):

Hello everybody. We’re here with Jon, Jon Thomas from New Hope Community. How you doing today? John? John?

Speaker 5 (18:35):

I’m doing great. Thanks. Uh, thanks for having me on the show, Mike.

Speaker 1 (18:38):

No problem. Anytime. Um, so we’re gonna ask a little bit about you. How long have you been at New Hope for?

Speaker 5 (18:43):

Uh, this is gonna be my 11th year.

Speaker 1 (18:45):

All right, nice. And, uh, so what’s your, uh, title and New Hope? Uh, when you first came? What did you start at doing?

Speaker 5 (18:53):

Uh, I was part of the leisure team. I was the, uh, greenhouse coordinator for 10 years.

Speaker 1 (18:58):

Okay. And now, recently you started on a new project. Do you wanna tell us a little about, about that?

Speaker 5 (19:02):

Sure. It’s actually a really big project and, um, what’s kind of fun is my, uh, job title has changed from, uh, greenhouse coordinator to Farmer. Um, so <laugh>, I’m under the official farmer for, uh, new Hope Community. Um, part of, we are, uh, establishing a farm behind the Sullivan County Community College. Uh, we came to an agreement with the college, uh, New Hope has, uh, to farm three acres of, um, old farmland that was, uh, last farmed in the fifties. So, um, this is the first year, um, we are gonna have, uh, three sections of the, of the three acres. So it’ll be one acre of, uh, vegetables, one acre of, uh, what, what I call, uh, perennial fruits or small fruits, so like raspberries, blackberries, raspberries, um, and so on. And then the third acre is gonna be orchard, orchard trees, apples, peaches, and plums. So, um, that’s pretty much, uh, kind of an overview of, uh, uh, our farm.

Speaker 1 (20:13):

All right. So, um, going back, what got you into gardening originally?

Speaker 5 (20:17):

Uh, it was originally I was inspired by my mother. She was, uh, she came over from Germany after the war. Um, she was a trained horticulturist. Um, she immigrated in the early fifties, and then I, when I was born in the sixties, we always had, um, vegetable gardens wherever we were, uh, farming. I mean, wherever we were living in downtown LA we’d managed to, um, have, uh, gardens and grow bananas and, uh, you know, feed the, feed the, um, the, the, the, the vegetables, uh, organically. So we would go fishing and then we would feed the fish heads to the, to the banana trees and to the vegetables. So, um, and also she was always working in greenhouses, uh, and, uh, nurseries growing up. So I always tagged along as well. And I was, uh, that’s pretty much where I got my education and my, um, my spark and, and love of nature and plants.

Speaker 1 (21:22):

That’s great. Um, so also, while you lived out there, you also did other thing, you were a surfer, you said too, right?

Speaker 5 (21:28):

Yeah, I grew up in, uh, uh, in downtown, downtown LA until, uh, until I was 12 years old. And I, uh, we were looking for a place to move and I told my mom that I wanted to go to the beach. So we, uh, we traveled all around southern California and found this sleepy little town at the time called Huntington Beach. And, uh, we ended up moving there. And I lived a block from the beach right across from the PCH, which is the number one of famous road. So I could, uh, get up in the morning, run across the street, do a little surfing, body surfing, boogie boarding, and then, uh, clean up and get to school on time by, um, eight 30.

Speaker 1 (22:10):

That’s awesome. And also, I don’t know if many people know, but you’re also, uh, avid record collector, you know, a lot of vinyl and stuff. Um, so, uh, and you also had in the past of, uh, DJ’ed, you know, various things at the mixers and things like that. Do you still collect vinyl?

Speaker 5 (22:26):

I sure do. I, um, I just have a, a passion for music. Um, I’ve, in the last couple years, uh, I was always collecting used records and kind of always had set myself, um, that I wouldn’t spend a lot of money. But, um, my collection is probably around 6,000 records. It’s, uh, the majority of a garage of my garage, and I have a place, um, uh, in the garage. And every week we have a session where we mix, um, kind of experimental and kind of new music and old music together and kind of create, I would, I would have to, it’s hard to call, uh, in any kind of genre, but it would be a collage of music.

Speaker 1 (23:10):

All right. And, um, is there any one particular album that sticks out? Is your all-time favorite they can think of? Or is there just too many to name?

Speaker 5 (23:18):

Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (23:20):

If you could, if you lived through in a desert island and said you only can bring one album, would you, what would it be?

Speaker 5 (23:25):

I think it’d probably be a Neil Young album or, uh, Lou Reed, um, or, uh, something by the Sex Pistols.

Speaker 1 (23:36):

I could go with Neil Young, also. <laugh>. Yeah. Tell us a little more about the farm. Um, do you have any, what’s long term plans? Uh,

Speaker 5 (23:42):

A small flock of 20 birds. Um, they’re being raised in the horse barn at New Hope Community. Um, so supported work, uh, individuals are taking care, care of the chicks and raising them to go into the farm by the middle of July. And by the end of July, they should be laying, uh, their, their, uh, brown egg layers. So we should be having a, a small, a small, um, amount of eggs coming out, um, by the end of July, probably, uh, a dozen a day.

Speaker 1 (24:15):

That’s great. And also the individuals have been coming down throughout the week and helping you as well, correct? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:21):

Um, there’s actually a, a whole host of different programs that we’re hosting here. We have volunteers. Um, my main volunteers are Jay Pusey, um, we’re having Dean Grillo come in, um, and volunteer at the farm also. And then there’s another, another fork of that would be the supported work crew. Um, we’re having two people working on the weekends, taking care of the chickens when I’m not here. Um, and also we have support to, uh, individuals that are gonna be part-time through supported work, uh, that are working part-time on the farm. And then also another part of that is, uh, the Without Walls program comes twice a week. So they come, uh, different groups for an hour. So there’s six groups, um, twice a week. So I’m having a lot of, uh, help and energy and, uh, they’re also contributing to the farm from literally from the soil up and from the ground breaking up. So, um, it’s pretty exciting.

Speaker 1 (25:25):

That’s fantastic. Now going back to New Hope, what originally brought you to New Hope? Did you know, like what caught your eye and made you decide to come to New Hope Community?

Speaker 5 (25:33):

Yep. I was actually kind of in a transition from, from my life. It was very, uh, I, I was working in the corporate world and the city. Um, I had my own small business, and I just felt like I had to simplify with, uh, being closer to home, to being closer to, uh, home so I could be part of my, um, children’s lives because I was traveling so much back and forth to the city. So I was looking for something up here that, uh, that was interesting. And I don’t think there’s anything more grounding than, uh, working with plants and working with people. So, uh, when I found out the opportunity at the Greenhouse, I, I jumped on it and I wouldn’t let go. And I kept on knocking on the door until they said yes. So I’m glad they did say yes, but I’ve been, uh, really hap really happy and, uh, just really, um, fortunate to be part of, uh, you know, New Hope and also to, to work, uh, for them to have a horticulture program and for them to have a leisure program, um, and activities.

Speaker 5 (26:37):

But as you know, um, in the leisure world, we were doing more than just gardening. We would be going on trips and going, uh, taking them, you know, going on fishing trips every week, and, uh, doing a, a long camping trip. And we went to the Adirondacks and to New York City and to Pennsylvania. And, um, there was also a lot, uh, a lot of things that New Hope thinks, uh, one of their important things was to the, uh, community, um, integration. So through that, I, I, and New Hope has con have contributed to many, uh, projects in the community, um, as far as gardens go. So creating, uh, gardens, community sgrdens with partnering with, um, different community groups, South Fallsburg, um, Hurleyville, um, Monticello and Liberty. So we’ve, I think we’ve really, um, kind of put a, put a footprint down with our volunteerism.

Speaker 1 (27:40):

That’s incredible. So, you know, before we go, um, every time I have guests on, I’d like to ask ’em if they could describe New Hope in one word. Like if they could pick any word out that, what New Hope means to them, what would it be?

Speaker 5 (27:52):

That’s a really good question, Mike. Um, in one word, I would say, I would have to say, uh, home.

Speaker 1 (27:59):

I totally agree with you. Yep. It’s definitely a homey place. And you know, Jon, John s definitely one of the staples, new hope when people come here like, oh, have you met Jon Jon yet? Usually that’s a question you ask new r and gs. And no, all the guys, you know, are huge fans of you. I mean, you do great things for them, and that’s kind, it’s kinda like the staple, the greenhouse, you know, everyone loves going to the greenhouse and doing the leisure activities. You guys do, uh, awesome job at doing what you do. And, uh, we know, I would like to thank you for having you on the show today. Um, it was great.

Speaker 5 (28:27):

Thank you so much, Mike. I, I really, uh, feel fortunate to be, to, to be able to interview with you and also to be part of New Hope. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (28:34):

No problem. Maybe we’ll start doing, um, updates, you know, every other month, come out here and check in the status of the farm. Right.

Speaker 5 (28:41):

Uh, one of our highlights, uh, later in the summer, probably, uh, probably the middle of August to the late of August, we’re gonna have a, uh, a corn, a corn boil. So we’re gonna have a big party here, so, uh, or, or kind of a, uh, a big meal together out in the fields, um, and pick your own corn, throw it into some boiling water, and we’re gonna put, um, some salt in some <laugh> and some butter on it and enjoy some company.

Speaker 1 (29:09):

Sounds great. Yeah. All right. And thanks again for coming on the wrap chat. Jon. Jon, 

Speaker 5 (29:13):

Thank You so much, Mike.

Speaker 1 (29:15):

All right. Thank you.